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		<title>By: Justin Leach &#187; Nagoya acoustic duos, indie music underground, and an end to the mainstream…</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Leach &#187; Nagoya acoustic duos, indie music underground, and an end to the mainstream…</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Man in Abiko points to this post on corruption within the Japanese entertainment industry (not that corruption is unique to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nagoya acoutic duos, indie music underground, and an end to the mainstream&#8230; &#124; Japan Probe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nagoya acoutic duos, indie music underground, and an end to the mainstream&#8230; &#124; Japan Probe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Man in Abiko points to this post on corruption within the Japanese entertainment industry (not that corruption is unique to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: lenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>lenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The showbiz industry in every country is corrupt. Young ignorant girls wanna be famous and are ruthlessly exploited by men in the industry. No wonder criminal gangs are involved</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The showbiz industry in every country is corrupt. Young ignorant girls wanna be famous and are ruthlessly exploited by men in the industry. No wonder criminal gangs are involved</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I learned she was busted by the Kyoto police in July of 194 busted by the Kyoto police in april of 1940 for suspicion of being a member of prostitution ring.&quot;

It&#039;s &quot;I learned she was busted by the Kyoto police in april of 1940.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I learned she was busted by the Kyoto police in July of 194 busted by the Kyoto police in april of 1940 for suspicion of being a member of prostitution ring.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;I learned she was busted by the Kyoto police in april of 1940.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can’t see this being covered as widely as the sumo match fixing allegations, which came from a source who was just as dubious but only threatened the status quo of the sport itself, rather than media and talent industry entanglements.&quot;

Don:

But Sumo is supposed to be a Nation&#039;s all time favourite sports.Plus now there is the tape recording of the secret committee..

I am now reading late Takenaka Rou&#039;s竹中労　芸能人別帳（ちくま文庫）.Takenaka was sort of Japanese gonzo journalist and had been active as entertainment gossip writer in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s.And it seems jimusho-talento-prostitution ring is pretty old stuff.
Reading a chapter on Mori Mitsuko森光子,who is now 87 this year,and possessing sorta-national grandma icon type of status,I learned she was busted by the Kyoto police in July of 194 busted by the Kyoto police in april of 1940 for suspicion of being a member of prostitution ring.At the time Mori was an actress under contract with Shinko Kinema新興キネマ which later become Daiei under former mob Nagata Masakazu.The cops had already busted a few young actresses from this studio and Mori was under suspcion from the cops for her being a father-less daughter of a geisha.(Mori was released from proson after four days later.)Although Mori had denied her involvement in prostitution,you can imagine this was pretty usual practice among not-so-well-to-do young women in entertainment world.


I have an idea on Hosoki.Lots of us know that Hosoki was the last wife of late confucian and mentor to many post war prime minister,Yasuoka Masahiro安岡正篤,who was immortalized by being the speech writer of that famous August 15th Imperial speech accepting Japan&#039;s surrender in 1945.

We also know another variety show regular,Devi Sukarno was actually a hostess in Ginza,before shw was hand picked by the rightwinger and CIA agent Kodama Yoshio(who was working as an agent of influence of former PM Kishi Nobusuke,who was the grand fater of Abe Shinzo)and sent to Jakarta as &quot;a present&quot;to then Indonesian president,Sukarno.

Both Hosoki and Madame Devi are on the air of prime time TV show,because the taboo around them has become thing of the past,thus broken.Not vice-versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can’t see this being covered as widely as the sumo match fixing allegations, which came from a source who was just as dubious but only threatened the status quo of the sport itself, rather than media and talent industry entanglements.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don:</p>
<p>But Sumo is supposed to be a Nation&#8217;s all time favourite sports.Plus now there is the tape recording of the secret committee..</p>
<p>I am now reading late Takenaka Rou&#8217;s竹中労　芸能人別帳（ちくま文庫）.Takenaka was sort of Japanese gonzo journalist and had been active as entertainment gossip writer in the 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s.And it seems jimusho-talento-prostitution ring is pretty old stuff.<br />
Reading a chapter on Mori Mitsuko森光子,who is now 87 this year,and possessing sorta-national grandma icon type of status,I learned she was busted by the Kyoto police in July of 194 busted by the Kyoto police in april of 1940 for suspicion of being a member of prostitution ring.At the time Mori was an actress under contract with Shinko Kinema新興キネマ which later become Daiei under former mob Nagata Masakazu.The cops had already busted a few young actresses from this studio and Mori was under suspcion from the cops for her being a father-less daughter of a geisha.(Mori was released from proson after four days later.)Although Mori had denied her involvement in prostitution,you can imagine this was pretty usual practice among not-so-well-to-do young women in entertainment world.</p>
<p>I have an idea on Hosoki.Lots of us know that Hosoki was the last wife of late confucian and mentor to many post war prime minister,Yasuoka Masahiro安岡正篤,who was immortalized by being the speech writer of that famous August 15th Imperial speech accepting Japan&#8217;s surrender in 1945.</p>
<p>We also know another variety show regular,Devi Sukarno was actually a hostess in Ginza,before shw was hand picked by the rightwinger and CIA agent Kodama Yoshio(who was working as an agent of influence of former PM Kishi Nobusuke,who was the grand fater of Abe Shinzo)and sent to Jakarta as &#8220;a present&#8221;to then Indonesian president,Sukarno.</p>
<p>Both Hosoki and Madame Devi are on the air of prime time TV show,because the taboo around them has become thing of the past,thus broken.Not vice-versa.</p>
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		<title>By: lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes to some Japanese feminism over here too. Because my Japan knowledge has no feminist perspective and my feminism knowledge is totally West-centric. And they come into major conflict and I can&#039;t reconcile it. (Probably because I&#039;m white and American and can&#039;t know first hand what is the best for Japanese women. Surprise!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes to some Japanese feminism over here too. Because my Japan knowledge has no feminist perspective and my feminism knowledge is totally West-centric. And they come into major conflict and I can&#8217;t reconcile it. (Probably because I&#8217;m white and American and can&#8217;t know first hand what is the best for Japanese women. Surprise!)</p>
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		<title>By: M-Bone</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Bone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We have actually been planning this&quot;

Something multi-authored like the &quot;foreigner Japanese&quot; thing would be very appropriate for this, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have actually been planning this&#8221;</p>
<p>Something multi-authored like the &#8220;foreigner Japanese&#8221; thing would be very appropriate for this, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: W. David MARX</title>
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		<dc:creator>W. David MARX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I would love to see treatment here (or on NJ) of Japanese feminism.&lt;/i&gt;

We have actually been planning this, because I do concede your point a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I would love to see treatment here (or on NJ) of Japanese feminism.</i></p>
<p>We have actually been planning this, because I do concede your point a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess my only other option is to passively accept and obliquely celebrate institutionalized misogyny.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, rather than making chivalrous objections to the most lurid appropriations of women as commodity-objects, you might instead frame yourself as an ally to women as subjects. As it stands you&#039;re approaching a smartened-up version of Wai Wai with a bit of moralizing thrown in; like Fox news coverage of abduction cases, you&#039;re protesting too much.

I would love to see treatment here (or on NJ) of Japanese feminism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my only other option is to passively accept and obliquely celebrate institutionalized misogyny.</p>
<p>Or, rather than making chivalrous objections to the most lurid appropriations of women as commodity-objects, you might instead frame yourself as an ally to women as subjects. As it stands you&#8217;re approaching a smartened-up version of Wai Wai with a bit of moralizing thrown in; like Fox news coverage of abduction cases, you&#8217;re protesting too much.</p>
<p>I would love to see treatment here (or on NJ) of Japanese feminism.</p>
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		<title>By: W. David MARX</title>
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		<dc:creator>W. David MARX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The topic is &quot;taboo.&quot; The result is self-censorship. But the topic is not taboo in the anthropological sense of the word. In almost all cases, bringing up the truth would embarrass someone in power or dirty the tatemae.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The topic is &#8220;taboo.&#8221; The result is self-censorship. But the topic is not taboo in the anthropological sense of the word. In almost all cases, bringing up the truth would embarrass someone in power or dirty the tatemae.</p>
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