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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1826</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Yasukuni shrine things says it all.

Whilst Japanese war dead deserve the deepest respect......war criminals are to be eternally spat upon by us all.

I love the cowardly photo at McDonalds by the 2 Chaneru&#039;s. Samurai  would show their faces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Yasukuni shrine things says it all.</p>
<p>Whilst Japanese war dead deserve the deepest respect&#8230;&#8230;war criminals are to be eternally spat upon by us all.</p>
<p>I love the cowardly photo at McDonalds by the 2 Chaneru&#8217;s. Samurai  would show their faces.</p>
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		<title>By: From WaiWai</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1806</link>
		<dc:creator>From WaiWai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following is a WaiWai article.
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Channel 2 forum sinks teeth into nation&#039;s grit

Japanese have traditionally shunned confrontation. They&#039;re known throughout the world for obedience and
conformity. Of course, this has basically allowed the few to dominate the many, but, thanks to Channel Two,
things have been changing a bit over the past few years.
Channel Two, or Ni Chaneru as it&#039;s known in Japanese, is the world&#039;s largest online bulletin board, according to
Flash (12/24). Almost since its inception in May 1999, Ni Chaneru and the countless number of threads that
stream from it, have managed to change thousands of Japanese from docile and demure to fierce defenders of
justice acting as watchdogs for society or simply crusaders of craziness.
&quot;I set it up as a way to pass the time when I was studying in the United States to be a programmer,&quot; Ni
Chaneru&#039;s founder and moderator Hiroyuki Nishimura tells Flash. &quot;I felt a bit attracted to it, but was totally
prepared to end it if it became a pain.&quot;
Nishimura admits that the success of Ni Chaneru can be attributed to &quot;being in the right place at the right
time,&quot; but its record of grass roots accomplishments has been astounding in a country where corrupt, oneparty
rule has been the norm for all but a few months for most of the past half century.
Some achievements inspired by campaigns among Ni Chaneru&#039;s minions have been:
* Forcing Toshiba Corp. to apologize in July 1999 after a man used the bulletin board to reveal that his
complaints about a faulty VCR were greeted with obscenities from the electronics giant&#039;s service staff;
* Eliciting a shame-filled explanation from the boss of music powerhouse Avex after superstar diva Ayumi
Hamasaki complained that a group of disabled people given front row, center seats to one of her concerts
were &quot;sickening.&quot;
* Inspiring hundreds of people to get out and clean up notoriously dirty Shonan beach just hours before the
Fuji TV planned an identical campaign to protest the network&#039;s shoddy coverage of World Cup soccer games.
Network executives arrived at the beach expecting to film hundreds of people picking up trash on the
seashore, but were instead greeted by a pristine beach and raspberries from the hundreds of Ni Chaneru fans
who had cleaned it.
* Encouraging busloads of schoolchildren to pay their respects at Yasukuni Shrine, where Japan&#039;s war dead are
enshrined, on the anniversary of the end of World War II. War-talk among the young is not widely encouraged
in Japan.
* Prompting a 1,000 Burger Eat Off when McDonalds started selling hamburgers for 59 yen apiece. About 40
Ni Chaneru users turned up at a Tokyo outlet of the giant food chain and proceeded to chomp their way
through some 400 burgers in a few hours. True to form for Ni Chaneru users, Flash says, participants
celebrated the occasion by taking a snapshot -- with everybody facing away from the camera!

January 4, 2003</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is a WaiWai article.<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>Channel 2 forum sinks teeth into nation&#8217;s grit</p>
<p>Japanese have traditionally shunned confrontation. They&#8217;re known throughout the world for obedience and<br />
conformity. Of course, this has basically allowed the few to dominate the many, but, thanks to Channel Two,<br />
things have been changing a bit over the past few years.<br />
Channel Two, or Ni Chaneru as it&#8217;s known in Japanese, is the world&#8217;s largest online bulletin board, according to<br />
Flash (12/24). Almost since its inception in May 1999, Ni Chaneru and the countless number of threads that<br />
stream from it, have managed to change thousands of Japanese from docile and demure to fierce defenders of<br />
justice acting as watchdogs for society or simply crusaders of craziness.<br />
&#8220;I set it up as a way to pass the time when I was studying in the United States to be a programmer,&#8221; Ni<br />
Chaneru&#8217;s founder and moderator Hiroyuki Nishimura tells Flash. &#8220;I felt a bit attracted to it, but was totally<br />
prepared to end it if it became a pain.&#8221;<br />
Nishimura admits that the success of Ni Chaneru can be attributed to &#8220;being in the right place at the right<br />
time,&#8221; but its record of grass roots accomplishments has been astounding in a country where corrupt, oneparty<br />
rule has been the norm for all but a few months for most of the past half century.<br />
Some achievements inspired by campaigns among Ni Chaneru&#8217;s minions have been:<br />
* Forcing Toshiba Corp. to apologize in July 1999 after a man used the bulletin board to reveal that his<br />
complaints about a faulty VCR were greeted with obscenities from the electronics giant&#8217;s service staff;<br />
* Eliciting a shame-filled explanation from the boss of music powerhouse Avex after superstar diva Ayumi<br />
Hamasaki complained that a group of disabled people given front row, center seats to one of her concerts<br />
were &#8220;sickening.&#8221;<br />
* Inspiring hundreds of people to get out and clean up notoriously dirty Shonan beach just hours before the<br />
Fuji TV planned an identical campaign to protest the network&#8217;s shoddy coverage of World Cup soccer games.<br />
Network executives arrived at the beach expecting to film hundreds of people picking up trash on the<br />
seashore, but were instead greeted by a pristine beach and raspberries from the hundreds of Ni Chaneru fans<br />
who had cleaned it.<br />
* Encouraging busloads of schoolchildren to pay their respects at Yasukuni Shrine, where Japan&#8217;s war dead are<br />
enshrined, on the anniversary of the end of World War II. War-talk among the young is not widely encouraged<br />
in Japan.<br />
* Prompting a 1,000 Burger Eat Off when McDonalds started selling hamburgers for 59 yen apiece. About 40<br />
Ni Chaneru users turned up at a Tokyo outlet of the giant food chain and proceeded to chomp their way<br />
through some 400 burgers in a few hours. True to form for Ni Chaneru users, Flash says, participants<br />
celebrated the occasion by taking a snapshot &#8212; with everybody facing away from the camera!</p>
<p>January 4, 2003</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1757</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was netsurfing on the other day and run into yet another Waiwai related entry with link to Australian newspaper,Sydney Morning Herald article.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/japan-rails-at-australians-tabloid-trash/2008/07/04/1214951041660.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

And here it said.

&quot;Connell&#039;s troubles began in May with one of his now infamous WaiWai columns, which cited a Japanese magazine article about a restaurant in the Tokyo district of Roppongi where patrons allegedly have sex with animals before eating them.&quot;

And I hold my breath by reading the following.

&quot;The piece caught the attention of a blogger called Mozu, whose angry post was soon picked up by 2channel, a massive, fractious web forum popular with Japan&#039;s hot-headed conservative element.&quot;

Now,Mozu,our fellow commenter and you can see his post in this thread too,is far from an ordinary angry 2ch type.He also has his own blog on French Politics and EU issues(in Japanese)and I&#039;m a regular reader/commenter there too.And there,he posted an analysis on WaiWai and the response in English Japan blogsphere by quoting whoelse but our host W.David Marx&#039;s post on Neojaponisme!!!

http://rockhand.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/04/post_6f5f.html

That means:

1)Waiwai had inspired Marxy to write a post in Neojaponisme

2)That inspired Mozu to write his post on his blog.

3)A 2Channeler had read it and started a thread and it went up in flame

4)Mainichi shuts down Waiwai.....

My conclusion:

On internet,what goes around comes around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was netsurfing on the other day and run into yet another Waiwai related entry with link to Australian newspaper,Sydney Morning Herald article.<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/japan-rails-at-australians-tabloid-trash/2008/07/04/1214951041660.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/japan-rails-at-australians-tabloid-trash/2008/07/04/1214951041660.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1</a></p>
<p>And here it said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Connell&#8217;s troubles began in May with one of his now infamous WaiWai columns, which cited a Japanese magazine article about a restaurant in the Tokyo district of Roppongi where patrons allegedly have sex with animals before eating them.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I hold my breath by reading the following.</p>
<p>&#8220;The piece caught the attention of a blogger called Mozu, whose angry post was soon picked up by 2channel, a massive, fractious web forum popular with Japan&#8217;s hot-headed conservative element.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now,Mozu,our fellow commenter and you can see his post in this thread too,is far from an ordinary angry 2ch type.He also has his own blog on French Politics and EU issues(in Japanese)and I&#8217;m a regular reader/commenter there too.And there,he posted an analysis on WaiWai and the response in English Japan blogsphere by quoting whoelse but our host W.David Marx&#8217;s post on Neojaponisme!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://rockhand.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/04/post_6f5f.html" rel="nofollow">http://rockhand.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/04/post_6f5f.html</a></p>
<p>That means:</p>
<p>1)Waiwai had inspired Marxy to write a post in Neojaponisme</p>
<p>2)That inspired Mozu to write his post on his blog.</p>
<p>3)A 2Channeler had read it and started a thread and it went up in flame</p>
<p>4)Mainichi shuts down Waiwai&#8230;..</p>
<p>My conclusion:</p>
<p>On internet,what goes around comes around.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing 2channel have done is give more publicity to the original waiwai stories. They will only spread and now live forever!

The Japanese seem to have a collective inferiority complex and are far too concerned with what some &quot;gaijin&quot; think of them. Chill out! We know most of you are very normal!!!!

Mainichi&#039;s actions are an embarrassment and cringeworthy. Long live waiwai!!

Death to censorship!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing 2channel have done is give more publicity to the original waiwai stories. They will only spread and now live forever!</p>
<p>The Japanese seem to have a collective inferiority complex and are far too concerned with what some &#8220;gaijin&#8221; think of them. Chill out! We know most of you are very normal!!!!</p>
<p>Mainichi&#8217;s actions are an embarrassment and cringeworthy. Long live waiwai!!</p>
<p>Death to censorship!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mulboyne</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1701</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulboyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aceface, a lot of the family are Kazakh-Mongols but I&#039;ve no idea if that&#039;s true of Kahn himself. I see one of his relatives now and again. It never occurred to me to ask how Kahn could be in London and Paris in the 50s and 60s but I&#039;ll try to remember to ask next time I come across him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aceface, a lot of the family are Kazakh-Mongols but I&#8217;ve no idea if that&#8217;s true of Kahn himself. I see one of his relatives now and again. It never occurred to me to ask how Kahn could be in London and Paris in the 50s and 60s but I&#8217;ll try to remember to ask next time I come across him.</p>
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		<title>By: tammanycall</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1700</link>
		<dc:creator>tammanycall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Durf
IMDB is notoriously innacurate; most biographical info is fan, publicist, or self-submitted.  Actually anyone can write or edit entries.  It&#039;s an excellent way to prank your friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Durf<br />
IMDB is notoriously innacurate; most biographical info is fan, publicist, or self-submitted.  Actually anyone can write or edit entries.  It&#8217;s an excellent way to prank your friends.</p>
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		<title>By: mozu@</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1697</link>
		<dc:creator>mozu@</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For example, &quot;Tokyo Confidential&quot; in Japan Times has introduced dubious articles of jitsuwa knuckles, but they have not made me so unpleasant. I wonder where these different impressions derive. My hypotheses follow.

(1)There is something wrong with the writing style of WaiWai columns. (2)I feel the malice in the selection of articles of WaiWai.
(3)While I expect Mainichi to develop as a leading center-left force, I don&#039;t expect too much from Japan Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For example, &#8220;Tokyo Confidential&#8221; in Japan Times has introduced dubious articles of jitsuwa knuckles, but they have not made me so unpleasant. I wonder where these different impressions derive. My hypotheses follow.</p>
<p>(1)There is something wrong with the writing style of WaiWai columns. (2)I feel the malice in the selection of articles of WaiWai.<br />
(3)While I expect Mainichi to develop as a leading center-left force, I don&#8217;t expect too much from Japan Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Durf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Iska Khan/Catherine Deneuve scene is pictured here:

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm809736192/nm0451237

No biographical info on his IMDB entry though. His list of roles includes Japanese names, N&#039;Guyen (sic), and &quot;le Chinois.&quot; Is there such a thing as &quot;Asiaxploitation&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iska Khan/Catherine Deneuve scene is pictured here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/media/rm809736192/nm0451237" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/media/rm809736192/nm0451237</a></p>
<p>No biographical info on his IMDB entry though. His list of roles includes Japanese names, N&#8217;Guyen (sic), and &#8220;le Chinois.&#8221; Is there such a thing as &#8220;Asiaxploitation&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1685</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iska Khan=Mongolian

Mulboyne,I need to know the source on this.Mongolian from the People&#039;s Republic of Mongolia in France in the 60&#039;s? There were relatively huge group of Kalmyk(minority group live in Volga region who Mongolic language) emigre in France came from Russia after Bolshevik took over,but from Mongolia proper? I&#039;m both skeptic and curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iska Khan=Mongolian</p>
<p>Mulboyne,I need to know the source on this.Mongolian from the People&#8217;s Republic of Mongolia in France in the 60&#8242;s? There were relatively huge group of Kalmyk(minority group live in Volga region who Mongolic language) emigre in France came from Russia after Bolshevik took over,but from Mongolia proper? I&#8217;m both skeptic and curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Mulboyne</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/06/30/the-waiwai-bonfire/comment-page-1/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulboyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shukan Post did have an English site for a while. You could access it through weeklypost.com which now serves only as the Japanese site. If you use the Wayback Machine, however you can still see most of the old pages back to 1996. The stories were almost exclusively economic or political with an occasional bit of entertainment gossip. The only time sex cropped up was in reports of someone famous being accused of sex offences. They stopped running it on Jan 1st 2005.

Aceface, &quot;Iska Khan&quot; is the guy&#039;s wrestling name. He&#039;s definitely Mongolian - one of his relatives just got re-elected at the weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shukan Post did have an English site for a while. You could access it through weeklypost.com which now serves only as the Japanese site. If you use the Wayback Machine, however you can still see most of the old pages back to 1996. The stories were almost exclusively economic or political with an occasional bit of entertainment gossip. The only time sex cropped up was in reports of someone famous being accused of sex offences. They stopped running it on Jan 1st 2005.</p>
<p>Aceface, &#8220;Iska Khan&#8221; is the guy&#8217;s wrestling name. He&#8217;s definitely Mongolian &#8211; one of his relatives just got re-elected at the weekend.</p>
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