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		<title>By: Mulboyne</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulboyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Where are you going to wear a tiara&quot;

At a corporate event, apparently. Last night at the Tokyo International Forum, tiaras were passed out to the crowd and Fergie from the Black Eyed Peas came on stage wearing one. In the middle of her set, she pulled out a digital camera - &quot;a present from my Japanese friend Kumi Koda&quot; - and said she wanted to take pictures of everyone wearing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where are you going to wear a tiara&#8221;</p>
<p>At a corporate event, apparently. Last night at the Tokyo International Forum, tiaras were passed out to the crowd and Fergie from the Black Eyed Peas came on stage wearing one. In the middle of her set, she pulled out a digital camera &#8211; &#8220;a present from my Japanese friend Kumi Koda&#8221; &#8211; and said she wanted to take pictures of everyone wearing them.</p>
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		<title>By: W. David MARX</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>W. David MARX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Read the Japanese State’s official take on them here”.&lt;/i&gt;

This was kind of a joke, but you have to admit that there&#039;s a geopolitical motive in having that Trends in Japan page up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Read the Japanese State’s official take on them here”.</i></p>
<p>This was kind of a joke, but you have to admit that there&#8217;s a geopolitical motive in having that Trends in Japan page up.</p>
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		<title>By: manda</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>manda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir, there&#039;s one big fallacy that&#039;s driving me nuts right in paragraph two:  &quot;Read the Japanese State’s official take on them here&quot;.

web-japan&#039;s About Us page reads:
&quot;Web Japan is sponsored by the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) and operated by a Japanese non government organization.&quot;

It&#039;s paid for, not written by, the Japanese government and so is not quite the mouthpiece of said entity.

And as for gyaru being dead - no - I don&#039;t think so - bgyaru will exist as long as there&#039;s Woofin&#039; Girl and Amuro Namie on the cover every other month, and gyaru is picking up in the United States as otaku female are growing up.  (Of course, I suppose you could argue that it&#039;s different, but the US adherents argue that the J-style must be copied exactly.)  There&#039;s some graduate assistant around here who wanders with a mini-tiara on her head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir, there&#8217;s one big fallacy that&#8217;s driving me nuts right in paragraph two:  &#8220;Read the Japanese State’s official take on them here&#8221;.</p>
<p>web-japan&#8217;s About Us page reads:<br />
&#8220;Web Japan is sponsored by the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) and operated by a Japanese non government organization.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s paid for, not written by, the Japanese government and so is not quite the mouthpiece of said entity.</p>
<p>And as for gyaru being dead &#8211; no &#8211; I don&#8217;t think so &#8211; bgyaru will exist as long as there&#8217;s Woofin&#8217; Girl and Amuro Namie on the cover every other month, and gyaru is picking up in the United States as otaku female are growing up.  (Of course, I suppose you could argue that it&#8217;s different, but the US adherents argue that the J-style must be copied exactly.)  There&#8217;s some graduate assistant around here who wanders with a mini-tiara on her head&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: W. David MARX</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>W. David MARX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that explanation, although it seems to back up the idea that society is providing the same &quot;kind&quot; of girls for hostess bars, snacks, and kyabakura. Koakuma style would not work for hostess bars, probably, and since kyabakura customers have less (corporate) money to bandy around, the post-109 glam-fest may fit their tastes well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that explanation, although it seems to back up the idea that society is providing the same &#8220;kind&#8221; of girls for hostess bars, snacks, and kyabakura. Koakuma style would not work for hostess bars, probably, and since kyabakura customers have less (corporate) money to bandy around, the post-109 glam-fest may fit their tastes well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mulboyne</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulboyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote: &quot;Kyabajou vs. Hostesses...is one really less sketchy of a job than the other?&quot;

The editorial team for Kojien had this discussion when they were putting together the new edition of the dictionary. They decided against including &quot;kyabakura&quot; (キャバクラ), even though it is in widespread use, because they couldn&#039;t see how such places materially differed from clubs or snakku. The head of the team did recognize, however, that the term &quot;kyabajou&quot; (キャバ嬢) was in frequent use and intimated that it could be considered for inclusion in the next edition if it remains popular.

http://www.zakzak.co.jp/top/2008_01/t2008012522_all.html

The kyabakura originally occupied a legal grey area between cabarets and clubs, hence the name, which essentially allowed owners to run a hostess club for longer hours and at cheaper prices. They were described at the time as &quot;happoshu&quot; to the &quot;beer&quot; of a fully licensed club which is one reason why they used a different name. The girls in a kyabakura were also generally younger on average than girls in a hostess club and their &quot;look&quot; was apparently supposed to reflect that. One of the original entrepreneurs claimed in an interview that their hair and make-up was based on the style many girls favoured for coming-of-age-day or attending a wedding. 

Because clubs and kyabakura became synonymous, the police began to enforce existing regulations more strictly which meant many kyabakura could not open past midnight or one o&#039;clock. A few have tried to open up during the day but many have closed their doors. One popular idea has been to jump on the &quot;girl&#039;s bar&quot; trend so around half of the 80 or so &quot;girl&#039;s bars&quot; in central Tokyo are converted kyabakura. However, few, if any, of the girls working in such places favour the kyabajou look even if it was what they wore before so it does beg the question, as you say, of whether it has a role anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote: &#8220;Kyabajou vs. Hostesses&#8230;is one really less sketchy of a job than the other?&#8221;</p>
<p>The editorial team for Kojien had this discussion when they were putting together the new edition of the dictionary. They decided against including &#8220;kyabakura&#8221; (キャバクラ), even though it is in widespread use, because they couldn&#8217;t see how such places materially differed from clubs or snakku. The head of the team did recognize, however, that the term &#8220;kyabajou&#8221; (キャバ嬢) was in frequent use and intimated that it could be considered for inclusion in the next edition if it remains popular.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zakzak.co.jp/top/2008_01/t2008012522_all.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.zakzak.co.jp/top/2008_01/t2008012522_all.html</a></p>
<p>The kyabakura originally occupied a legal grey area between cabarets and clubs, hence the name, which essentially allowed owners to run a hostess club for longer hours and at cheaper prices. They were described at the time as &#8220;happoshu&#8221; to the &#8220;beer&#8221; of a fully licensed club which is one reason why they used a different name. The girls in a kyabakura were also generally younger on average than girls in a hostess club and their &#8220;look&#8221; was apparently supposed to reflect that. One of the original entrepreneurs claimed in an interview that their hair and make-up was based on the style many girls favoured for coming-of-age-day or attending a wedding. </p>
<p>Because clubs and kyabakura became synonymous, the police began to enforce existing regulations more strictly which meant many kyabakura could not open past midnight or one o&#8217;clock. A few have tried to open up during the day but many have closed their doors. One popular idea has been to jump on the &#8220;girl&#8217;s bar&#8221; trend so around half of the 80 or so &#8220;girl&#8217;s bars&#8221; in central Tokyo are converted kyabakura. However, few, if any, of the girls working in such places favour the kyabajou look even if it was what they wore before so it does beg the question, as you say, of whether it has a role anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>”If businesses couldn’t make money off bosozoku fashion, but they can off “koakuma”, it’s not so surprising that a magazine aimed at the latter would exist, but not one for the former.”

Well,you never know.Check out the &quot;Champ Road&quot;!
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89-2007%E5%B9%B4-02%E6%9C%88%E5%8F%B7-%E9%9B%91%E8%AA%8C/dp/B000LE0RO4

&quot;Teens road&quot;is now gone.But it was more &quot;fashion&quot;oriented,because it was &quot;Ladies(girl b0sozoku)&quot;centered.
http://www.mbok.jp/item/item_127670409.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”If businesses couldn’t make money off bosozoku fashion, but they can off “koakuma”, it’s not so surprising that a magazine aimed at the latter would exist, but not one for the former.”</p>
<p>Well,you never know.Check out the &#8220;Champ Road&#8221;!<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89-2007%E5%B9%B4-02%E6%9C%88%E5%8F%B7-%E9%9B%91%E8%AA%8C/dp/B000LE0RO4" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89-2007%E5%B9%B4-02%E6%9C%88%E5%8F%B7-%E9%9B%91%E8%AA%8C/dp/B000LE0RO4</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Teens road&#8221;is now gone.But it was more &#8220;fashion&#8221;oriented,because it was &#8220;Ladies(girl b0sozoku)&#8221;centered.<br />
<a href="http://www.mbok.jp/item/item_127670409.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mbok.jp/item/item_127670409.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: W. David MARX</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>W. David MARX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone&#039;s gotta sell them &lt;a href=&quot;http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E6%94%BB%E6%9C%8D&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;特攻服&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone&#8217;s gotta sell them <a href="http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E6%94%BB%E6%9C%8D" rel="nofollow">特攻服</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the comparison, I&#039;m not denying common threads/roots, just the consumption/magazine aspect. If businesses couldn&#039;t make money off bosozoku fashion, but they can off &quot;koakuma&quot;, it&#039;s not so surprising that a magazine aimed at the latter would exist, but not one for the former. (Seems to me like a closer equivalent than &quot;fashion magazine for bosozoku&quot; would be &quot;bike parts magazine for bosozoku&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the comparison, I&#8217;m not denying common threads/roots, just the consumption/magazine aspect. If businesses couldn&#8217;t make money off bosozoku fashion, but they can off &#8220;koakuma&#8221;, it&#8217;s not so surprising that a magazine aimed at the latter would exist, but not one for the former. (Seems to me like a closer equivalent than &#8220;fashion magazine for bosozoku&#8221; would be &#8220;bike parts magazine for bosozoku&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: W. David MARX</title>
		<link>http://meta.neojaponisme.com/2008/02/15/little-devils/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>W. David MARX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;why don’t we throw something glossy together for them?&lt;/i&gt;

I think your guess is right, that someone realized the kyabakura industry would pay for ads in this magazine. This seems counter-instinctive but magazines exist because of sponsors rather than because of readers.

&lt;i&gt;Also is the comparison to bosozoku really the right one here?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, because both are offshoots of the almost-permanent Yankii youth working-class subculture. Bosozoku were the 70s incarnation, while hosts and koakuma are the 21st century conspicuous consumption incarnation. Reading about their lifestyles, however, they are extremely similar in motivations, education levels, etc. I just read Ikuya Sato&#039;s Kamikaze Biker again, and it&#039;s funny how the bosozoku/yankii&#039;s outlook on life is very close to the pages of Koakuma or even Popteen.

&lt;i&gt;Kyabajou vs. Hostesses&lt;/i&gt;

Sure, but is one really less sketchy of a job than th e other? Maybe kyabajou need to look more outrageous, but they are still meeting their boyfriends on the job.

I can&#039;t see this look really jumping out of Kyabakura. Where are you going to wear a tiara and lacy dress? The steps of 109?

Most importantly, economic pressure means more girls leave rural areas for Tokyo, but when they get to Tokyo, working in the mizushoubai industry is the only job that will pay them enough to actually live in Tokyo on their own. (They most likely have no real tertiary education.) The mizushoubai world is a big welfare system for the bottom of society. While its patronage is essentially a indirect form of class exploitation, if the whole industry collapses, that will knock out a pretty standard job for an increasingly large set of women at the lower stratum of society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>why don’t we throw something glossy together for them?</i></p>
<p>I think your guess is right, that someone realized the kyabakura industry would pay for ads in this magazine. This seems counter-instinctive but magazines exist because of sponsors rather than because of readers.</p>
<p><i>Also is the comparison to bosozoku really the right one here?</i></p>
<p>Yes, because both are offshoots of the almost-permanent Yankii youth working-class subculture. Bosozoku were the 70s incarnation, while hosts and koakuma are the 21st century conspicuous consumption incarnation. Reading about their lifestyles, however, they are extremely similar in motivations, education levels, etc. I just read Ikuya Sato&#8217;s Kamikaze Biker again, and it&#8217;s funny how the bosozoku/yankii&#8217;s outlook on life is very close to the pages of Koakuma or even Popteen.</p>
<p><i>Kyabajou vs. Hostesses</i></p>
<p>Sure, but is one really less sketchy of a job than th e other? Maybe kyabajou need to look more outrageous, but they are still meeting their boyfriends on the job.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see this look really jumping out of Kyabakura. Where are you going to wear a tiara and lacy dress? The steps of 109?</p>
<p>Most importantly, economic pressure means more girls leave rural areas for Tokyo, but when they get to Tokyo, working in the mizushoubai industry is the only job that will pay them enough to actually live in Tokyo on their own. (They most likely have no real tertiary education.) The mizushoubai world is a big welfare system for the bottom of society. While its patronage is essentially a indirect form of class exploitation, if the whole industry collapses, that will knock out a pretty standard job for an increasingly large set of women at the lower stratum of society.</p>
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		<title>By: Mulboyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mulboyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say &quot;hostess&quot; but, without being too pedantic, the look seems specifically that of the kyabakura hostess (キャバ嬢). The number of kyabakura around the country is falling right now just as the number of host clubs has been under pressure. I wonder whether you think this means that the look will become less popular from now and the magazines will represent a lagging indicator or, instead, the fashions will go from strength to strength but become more divorced from their mizushobai origins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#8220;hostess&#8221; but, without being too pedantic, the look seems specifically that of the kyabakura hostess (キャバ嬢). The number of kyabakura around the country is falling right now just as the number of host clubs has been under pressure. I wonder whether you think this means that the look will become less popular from now and the magazines will represent a lagging indicator or, instead, the fashions will go from strength to strength but become more divorced from their mizushobai origins.</p>
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